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    "content": "but also the consensus of the threshold that should support the Bill. Technically, there is no requirement for 24 Members. Twenty four becomes important and relevant in terms of carrying the decision sought. The word used is “carrying.” The matter is carried if it is supported by 24 delegations. This means that, if indeed, the support is less than 24 delegations, the matter is not carried. However, it does not mean that you cannot bring the matter. It just means that the matter is lost or does not go through. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Articles 121 and 123(4)(c) are plainly saying that, if you have 15 Senators irrespective of how many delegations they come from, you can take a vote. However, be warned that unless you have 24 delegations supporting that matter, that Motion will be lost. It is simple and clear because that is the law. It is very clear and you do not have to be a professor of law like me to understand this. Let me not say that because you do not have to be anything other than a plain reader of plain English, which all of us here are, to understand this. Our position and my view is that this memorandum can be introduced at any time when we have 15 Senators at any time in this House. Secondly, it means that voting can take place so long as you have 15 Senators, but unless the Motion --- In this case, I have looked at the way the wording was done even when this matter came to the Committee of the Whole. The issue is whether or not this Senate supports the reservations of the President. In fact, I am prepared to argue that were this Motion coached in negative terms, you would not even have required that 24. You would only need 15 Senators in the sense that the issue here is that ---."
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