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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Aluoch",
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        "legal_name": "John Olago Aluoch",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Speaker. The issues that Hon. Duale raised and which have been responded to by my friend, Hon. (Eng.) Gumbo, are very serious. I agree with both gentlemen. I am in possession of copies of the letters to the CJ and in my view, I saw desperation in the tone of the CJ. Hon. Ochieng referred to the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs where I have the honour and privilege to serve. Early in the life of this Parliament, the relationship between the Judiciary and the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs was so bad that at some stage, I thought we were not going to ever talk. Under the chairmanship of Hon. Chepkong’a, we have worked a lot to bring ourselves together. Right now, I believe the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs and the Judiciary are not in very good talking terms but we can look at the issues. What is happening in the PAC is what happened to us early in the life of this Parliament. The prayer that Hon. Duale is asking for ought to be granted. As we do that, I agree that the complaints by the CJ bring out very fundamental issues. One of them is what we had to grapple with when we asked the CJ to appear before us, it became difficult for him to distinguish whether we wanted to listen to him as the CJ of the Republic of Kenya, the President of the Supreme Court or as the Chair of the JSC. He was adamant that as the CJ, we should not invite him to come before the Committee of Parliament. We stood our ground and insisted that he had to come. I believe that if you look through these letters that we have seen, you will find that the CJ has been under the pressure that as the CJ he should not appear before a Committee of Parliament."
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