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    "id": 599729,
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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Sakaja",
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        "legal_name": "Johnson Arthur Sakaja",
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    "content": "himself to a judicial process within our legal system. But because that is not the case, the CJ will have to appear before Parliament, and we have seen willingness on his part, until we change the law and make it abundantly clear that he may accept to come, not as the CJ, but as the Chair of the JSC. As we move ahead, how we distinguish this is the same way that the President went to the ICC. The President is Uhuru Kenyatta. He went there as Mr. Uhuru Kenyatta and not as His Excellency President Uhuru Kenyatta. I concur a lot with what my colleagues are saying as a way of moving forward. We might need to consider making it clear that no head of any arm of Government shall also be in charge of any constitutional commission. That means that the Speaker of the National Assembly should not be the Chairman of the PSC. That also means that the CJ cannot be the Chairperson of the JSC. The Report of the PAC on the Judiciary exposes a lot of corruption. By having the leader of the Judiciary, an institution that needs absolute confidence from the people of Kenya to operate, when taken through such a process, you erode confidence in that institution. We have heard that there could be issues in Parliament. If you are taken through such a process as the Chair of the PSC, all the confidence of the people in the institution of Parliament is eroded. The National Assembly needs to take this opportunity, as we move ahead, to amend our laws. It could be that in the next term the Speaker is not the Chairperson of PSC because junior officers can taint your name by virtue of what they are doing and taint the whole institution. Also, the CJ should not be the Chairperson of the JSC to avoid conflict of interest and to ensure that we have full accountability by all arms of Government."
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