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    "speaker_name": "Sen. Orengo",
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        "legal_name": "Aggrey James Orengo",
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    "content": "I am sorry, Sen. Beth Mugo. I said my leader, Sen. Wetangula, Sen. Obure and quite a number of others served in Kibaki Government. He was the first President to deal with Presidential veto under the new Constitution. He dealt with a Speaker who was very particular about any reservations that would be made. As President Kibaki sat in State House, he was confronted by the Speaker who would look at everything that came from the President to make a determination whether he had a point or not. So, we are not talking about some new animal coming from mars. We are talking about a Constitution which came into force in the year 2010 when Kibaki was the President of the Republic of Kenya. There is sufficient precedent before the National Assembly to show us how Kibaki was dealing with similar issues so that the leadership of the House – particularly on the Government side – should go to the archives in order to deal with this point, which will keep on recurring. The problem with it is that this issue is now in the courts in several petitions which have been filed. We may find that we will go on and on and, finally, a judgment comes that all we have done is not in accordance with the Constitution. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, the Senate Minority Leader can have a session with the leadership on the other side, including Sen. Keter, whom I really respected because him and I were trying to build the independence and autonomy of the Constitution. However, these days when I see him, I see him as an agent of the Executive. So, I do not know whether he speaks for Parliament or he speaks for the Executive. Thank you."
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