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    "speaker_name": "Mr. Yinda",
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        "legal_name": "Edwin Ochieng Yinda",
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    "content": "The previous speakers have mentioned about the International Criminal Court (ICC) case. The ICC issue is not a PNU or an ODM issue. It is a national issue. The only way we will move forward even in the ICC issue is by this House and this country moving together. In order to move together, we must stop cheating each other. We must accept to speak the truth which never rots. As much as we want to think that we have control over the ICC, we have no control whatsoever. That is a clock that is ticking. So, we are just wasting our time and unless we work together, it will be a total waste of effort. My party has come out openly and clearly that we support the referral to the ICC and there is no debate about this. Right from the beginning when the issue came up, as a party, we supported the setting up of the local tribunal so that the cases could be heard locally. That position has not changed up to now. If, at the time we were debating the setting up of the local tribunal we were not satisfied that we had the systems in place that could try these cases, what is it that we have done today that can convince anybody that these cases can now be successfully tried in Kenya? I feel that we should take a lot of time to ensure that we put credible systems in place and, after that, we jointly go to the ICC and talk to our friend, Mr. Ocampo and convince him that we are ready to establish a local tribunal in Kenya. At the moment, I am afraid that there is no system in place. We can continue cheating each other and playing games but until we set up these systems in this country, it is a total waste of time."
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