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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Eng.) Gumbo",
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    "content": "engaging in making the law? I think this principle of separation of power is an ideal situation. How practical is the principle of separation of powers? I have just said that in an ideal situation, the Judiciary should engage in interpreting and enforcing the law. Those of you who are observant, must have recently seen the Judiciary putting a full page advert to establish a building department complete with architects, engineers, quantity surveyors and land surveyors. If indeed we were observing the principle of separation of power, why can we not have the buildings in the Judiciary done by the Executive, the Ministry of Lands, Housing and Urban Development? I want to say that it is not right that it only applies to Parliament when people talk about the principle of separation of power. I know there are many hon. Members interested in this debate and I do not want to take too much time. But as I conclude, I have engaged with the Chief Executive Officer of the Institute of Social Accountability, Ms. Wanjiru Gikonyo, at length. I am surprised, those of you who are observant must have seen the article she wrote yesterday. In the article, she appears to be glorifying county governments vis-à-vis the need for accountable use of public funds. Who does not know what is happening in our counties today? We are not merely talking because we are here. If you were to talk about counties that do not have audit queries, there are very few and far between. Clearly, the nobility of CDF as an idea is not in question. This is the one fund which has affected Kenyans. In fact even as we debate CDF, we are forgetting about the social aspects. In my constituency, I have a small quarry called Magare Quarry. Before the advent of CDF, there were less than ten people working in that quarry. Today over 2,000 people are working in the quarry because the demand for stones in Rarieda, Bondo and Seme where hon. (Prof.) Nyikal comes from, is just too much. You see young girls and boys doing welding everywhere. Hon. Speaker, as we debate this and engage in the Kamukunji tomorrow, let us look at ways--- I think there is a constitutional principle which requires national State organs to ensure reasonable access to each service. We will not be offending anything to make sure that--- Also, as Members of Parliament, it will not be wrong for the Constitution to facilitate us to do our work properly."
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