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    "id": 612767,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/612767/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. Murkomen",
    "speaker_title": "December 1, 2015 SENATEDEBATES 35 The Temporary Chairperson",
    "speaker": {
        "id": 440,
        "legal_name": "Onesimus Kipchumba Murkomen",
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    "content": " For purposes of the Senate Minority Leader and those who contested the vote of Sen. Mshenga, I would like to clarify that I have just made an interim ruling to facilitate us to have a substantive time; when the Speaker comes up with his communication, we can argue. I find it very difficult presiding as a Chairperson of the Committee of the Whole stage for us to converse over such weighty and important issues. There is no harm we are going to suffer now because the votes are over 25. If the Speaker comes to a substantive ruling and invalidates that vote, at that point in time, it will not harm the exercise that we have done here. For now, bear with me. A substantive time will come for us to argue. I also have issues, including whether if membership of delegation is segregated between two sides of a House. It is a substantive issue, but we cannot argue it in a Committee of the Whole stage. Allow us to leave it at that stage because I have consulted both the Senate Majority Leader and the Senate Minority Leader. We will deal with that issue when the Speaker comes."
}