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"content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairman, indeed, as you said, if sub- clause (1) goes, sub-clause (2) must also go. There will be no need of penalising a particular person if the period of time is infinity. However, although I agree on this one, it is important to note that sometimes we give leeway for urban authorities not to plan well. For example, we know about the railway lines. We know that they were done during the colonial time. Therefore, it is necessary for our authorities to manage our planning in a sense that they can take even 200 years."
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