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    "id": 619024,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Chepkong’a",
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        "legal_name": "Samuel Kiprono Chepkonga",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I rise to second but I am not sure whether I want to second the third part of the amendment. I am only seconding part (ii) but not part (iii) for very good reasons. I rise to second the fact as enunciated in the Report, which is that the various commissioners of the JSC must take personal responsibility with respect to allowances they received when they never attended meetings. In terms of culpability, it should be to the person who committed the crime and not the person who never committed it. We are agreeing on that one. Hon. Speaker, with respect to part (ii), the position is very clear. On matters of accountability and transparency, no one should run away from them. As you know, the former President of the USA, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, ruled for four terms. Thereafter, he came up with a law that no one should rule for more than two eight-year terms. He said: “The buck stops with me as the President of the USA”. When I was the Chief Executive Officer, as the Director-General of Communications Commission of Kenya (CCK), the buck stopped with me. It never went anywhere. I took personal responsibility for every action and decisions made in that institution. If you go to the CCK today, you will see the sort of regulations and rules that we had put in place. It did not matter who the Director-General who took over thereafter was. He was bound by those rules. Whenever there is a mess, we must take responsibility. With regard to part (iii) of the amendment, I oppose it with all my heart. Although I am seconding part (ii) of the amendment, the Mover has to look for a seconder for part (iii) of the amendment. It is not a wholesome secondment. As you have said, on this one, we will vote individually. Hon. Ochieng is my good friend but on matters of accountability, they are non- negotiable. I heard an Hon. Member not shouting but mouthing that if we go in the direction proposed by Hon. David Ochieng, we will be promoting impunity in this country. Therefore, The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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