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"content": "Judiciary, but I am of the opinion that much as the Judiciary was bad, even if you took a class of students who are all ‘E’ students, you still will end up with a number one. Similarly, if you take a class of ‘A’ students, you will still end up with the best. My request, particularly to the Justice and Legal Affairs Committee is that as we look into the upcoming appointments, let us, please, try also to give a chance to insiders. There are people who have served in the Judiciary for years. Seeing that only outsiders come to lead the Judiciary is not good for the morale. It cannot be possible that among the more than 140 Judges within the Judiciary at the moment, we cannot find somebody who can either be Chief Justice or Deputy Chief Justice. If we feel that outsiders are going to come in with new ideas, let us also try to remember that every human being wants to grow. But if you only bring in outsiders, for example, Hon. (Dr.) Willy Mutunga, Hon. Nancy Baraza and Gladys Shollei--- We had a situation where the entire leadership of the Judiciary was placed in the hands of outsiders. This, in itself, was a problem with regard to how the issues that we have come across came by. As a country, we also have to rethink the issue of public servants doing business with the Government. When you look through this Report, one of the issues that come across is the vested interest of people who are working within the Judiciary. It may be a difficult call, but this came from the Ndegwa Commission which allowed civil servants to also be doing business. As a country, we must now ask ourselves how much we have gained from allowing this latitude. I wish to, once again, reiterate that some of what we have seen is not good for us as a country. We would have made strides, as a country, and a difference in moving forward if we could learn from these mistakes, correct them and collectively decide that we do not want our country to be run in this way. Lastly, as the PAC, we are very concerned by the amounts of money that are being allocated to ministries, departments and agencies, which in truth, do not have the capacity to absorb that money. We have seen it in so many ministries. In the Report, you will clearly see that the Judiciary had a problem. Their problem seemed to be looking for what to do with the money that they had. The Judiciary, in a short period of time, found itself with a flood of cash that it did not have an immediate need for and they were just scrounging around looking for what to do with the money. Parliament has been given the role to appropriate money. Let us now be very strict in forcing ministries, departments and agencies to explain to us the programmes on which they want to spend the money that we are allocating to them. Otherwise, if we do not do that, we are going to end up with situations where we are starving needy sections of our country and giving too much money to sections of the country which do not need it. With those few remarks, I thank all the Members who are here today. I kindly request you to pass this Motion, so that we can have a turning point with regard to how we deal with issues affecting our country. I beg to move."
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