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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Deputy Speaker, Sir, we believe that Kenya has what it takes. We believe that if we can have the necessary information, we will understand this animal called KenRen Chemical and Fertilizers Company Limited. We will also be able to avoid falling in the pitfalls of the past. Before this House, after this Motion, I have proposed a Motion for the establishment of a fertilizer factory. But through hon. Ogindo’s Motion, we can actually identify the pitfalls that led us to company. We can actually through getting this information, know how we can avoid falling into the same trap. We can know how we can remove this burden on the shoulders of Kenyans because of the billions of shillings that are still being paid today even as I speak. I believe through this Motion, we will be able to get the details of what is outstanding. From hon. Ogindo’s presentation, we realize that part of the public debt that now stands at Kshs4.8 billion. Part of this huge balance, we have about Kshs4 billion that is owed to this Belgium entity known as Ducroire and we have Austrian Company, Bawag, on account of KenRen Chemical and Fertilizer Company Limited."
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