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    "id": 621064,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Sen. (Dr.) Zani",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Agnes Zani",
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    "content": "Mr. Speaker, Sir, one of the provisions that is so clear and we do not have any problem with, is the interpretation of Article 110(3) of the Constitution. It states clearly that the moment a Bill is presented; the two Speakers must sit together and decide. There are logistics about how that can be done. One that can be applied very easily is to have a document emanating, for example, from the Senate, you sign it, that this is a Bill concerning counties, take it to our counterparts at the National Assembly expecting him to sign it. If he does not, we proceed with it up to its conclusion and push it for enactment. Mr. Speaker, Sir, we have more than five Bills that have been assented to. We have about 18 Bills that are in the National Assembly and much more that are being processed. We need to find a way to solve this problem once and for all. One of the things that the National Assembly tends to do more often is just to delegate and say that this is a money Bill. For example, how can The Natural Resources (Benefit Sharing) Bill, be a money Bill when we are talking about resources at the county? That is why that provision in the article has been put there; so that all these issues can be ironed out right from the beginning so that a way forward is found. When such a Bill, the Physical Planning Bill, comes as a secondary report to the Senate, first of all, we have not gone by the provision of Article 110(3), and secondly, we are setting a very bad precedence. This is an issue that is long overdue for action. We need action that is very straightforward and clear so that we do not have this sort of a situation coming up. Indeed, we are finding ourselves in a quagmire; here is a Bill coming from the National Assembly and they expect us to debate it and yet we are not in a position to do so. That is why the provision was very clear. This determination has to be made at the beginning of the process and not somewhere in the middle or at the end. We need to find a way forward and let Kenya understand that the Bills that we are formulating at the Senate are actually beneficial to them. We sit here and put in a lot of hours to ensure that this happens. We need those Bills to be prosecuted to the end. We do The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes"
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