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    "content": "looking at them; reason, he wants to look good that his departments are working without carrying that they hurt Kenyans. Therefore, we need a quasi-judicial independent body that can deal with this. Regarding Clause 40(a), I encourage Sen. Obure, at the Committee of the Whole, to expand a little Clause 40(a)(2), the composition of the tribunal. We have many schools; in fact, the best schools in this country are sponsored by religious organisations. For example, my church, the Catholic Church has a hand in many schools. We also have Protestant and Quaker schools. We do not have to bring in everybody but we should give those religious based organisations that sponsor schools a chance to have a representative or two because their focus on the morality or otherwise of this draconian behaviour may be much better than some of the ordinary mortals so that we can have the Catholic fraternity with one and other denominations also bringing in one on a rotational basis; so that if the non-Catholic bring a Seventh Day Adventist (SDA), next time they can bring a Quaker, an Anglican and so on. Madam Temporary Speaker, I would also like to encourage that in Clause (2)(c), which states “one person jointly nominated by the unions for the time being” – this will raise hell - the Kenya Union of Post Primary Education Teachers (KUPPET) on one side and the Kenya National Union of Teachers (KNUT) on one side. They will never agree to nominate one person. They will each say they are aggrieved differently. Therefore, I encourage the sponsor of the Bill to expand that to have a representative of KUPPET and KNUT respectively. For avoidance of doubt, I would have gone even further and just said, either the secretary general or the chairman of whichever union so that you also reduce the frictions within the union on arriving as to who should be representing them because the Secretary General of KUPPET and the Secretary General of KNUT are full time employees of their unions and can join in and be part of this so that they can represent the interests of their teachers who are accused of fiddling with exams. We should also have a person representing the interests of parents. I do not know how we will arrive at this. There is a friend of mine called Mr. Musau Ndunda who has been quite vocal about parents’ issues; the Ministry has declared his association unlawful and told him that he will have nothing to do with education. If the parents association is not recognised by the Government, it will become very difficult, any parent will walk in and say, “I am here, I represent the parents,” but he or she has only one child. So, one cannot come and pretend that he or she is representing parents. There must be some structure. We need to see the distinguished Senator for Kirinyaga who is walking away, engage the Ministry and make sure that the parents’ union is recognised so that it can help."
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