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    "content": "Last year, when these problems arose I made a statement that triggered activity in KNEC. I said that “KNEC” had changed to “SSS.” This meant that they set, steal and sell the examinations themselves. When they heard me say that, they called me. For the first time, I sat in their boardroom. That is when I realised that we made a mistake. This is because they are the ones who set the exams, know where the exams strong room is and still administer those exams. It does not make sense. Whom should we run to when there is a dispute? The teachers mark the examinations set by the KNEC. Occasionally, teachers unions have had disputes with their parent Ministry, particularly the TSC, regarding increment of salaries. Sometimes, students become their weapon. They refuse to mark examinations so that their salaries can be increased. I want to laud Sen. Obure because he has felt the pinch more than us. The other day, some pupils complained about a pupil who did the examinations alone in the room. This is a likelihood of collusion because one is alone in a room. The situation was said to have been corrected, but it is still happening. Sometimes, some schools that perform well in examinations are punished because they think that some areas are meant to pass more than others. We need to look at this Bill thoroughly at the Committee stage. Sen. Musila suggested that the Cabinet Secretary should be among the people that will sit in the tribunal. We need to make sure that the persons sitting there will do the necessary. It is stated in the Bill that one person should be nominated by technical, vocation education and training authority, yet the Ministry of Education deals with KCPE and KCSE. There are two levels of academic cycles that we are dealing with; the primary and secondary level. We want to see how they will be accommodated. I prefer not to entertain the technical students who have completed Form Four. Sen. Obure, his neighbour, Sen. Musila, or any other Senator should think of creating a tribunal for higher institutions because we cannot put them together. Maybe we should have a different Ministry for lower education - like the one that we are handling - so that examinations do not come from the same source. This is because there are many primary and secondary schools. Obviously, we should have a teachers’ and parents’ body in the tribunal. We should also find out how the tribunal can have a representation in the county. They should have one or two officers in every county that sits in the county on their behalf. The main office could be in the national arena here, but we have one or two persons in the counties or regionally. For example, auditors have the Nyanza hub, North Rift hub and so on. This way we will not create a monster sitting in Nairobi that takes time to rectify problems, for example, in Lodwar. Should there be problems in Turkana or Mandera, for example, we should have people who are easily available. The Senator has suggested four years. We are not creating a job for these people. I do not know what the practice for other tribunals is. We may ask the originator of this Bill to check on this. Is it three or four years? We need to check on this so that we do not go out of the norm. We should do what others do. When we were in the then Ministry of Public Works with Sen. Obure, there was a case where there was a dispute because work had been given to a contractor and they had failed to do their part. People used to go there for solutions. This chairman has powers and he is appointed on full time basis. I do not The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes"
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