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    "id": 625324,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Chanzu",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 11,
        "legal_name": "Yusuf Kifuma Chanzu",
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    "content": "Bill will help in the management of land. We are creating awareness in the minds of our people. We are also creating laws which are going to protect their interests and also protect their enjoyment of the land that they have. The issue of ownership and tenure should be addressed. I know many places in western Kenya where people have been living on land for years with their descendants, but when you want to transact on that land, you realise that they do not have title deeds. They just live there because of community interest. This law will be of great use to Kenyans. I find Part V of the Bill very important. It consists of Clauses 22 to 27, which talk about general information relating to the conversion of community land to public or private land and vice versa. That is another important aspect. Once people understand the law, then it will provide flexibility in terms of land use. Users may find that they can make better use if they convert it to other uses. The part also provides for the setting aside of community land for public purposes. This is very important. If you compare this Bill with what has been transacted, you will find quite a number of illegal things may have been done. People do not understand. After we put in place the Constitution and set up the National Land Commission (NLC), you have seen the conflicts we have had between the Ministry of Land, Housing and Urban Development and the National Land Commission. This is still happening at the county and constituency level. The Bill is going to greatly benefit Kenyans. A point was raised here, which I must comment on very briefly about the area around Maseno in western Kenya in Vihiga and Kisumu counties. People in this area have lived peacefully for many years. I want people to understand that some of us come from that area. Many people have migrated from where I come from to some parts of the former Nyanza Province. This is something which somebody like me, who cares about the welfare of humanity and our people, is concerned about. It should not be something that should be brought to very high levels, in the manner I have seen some leaders, for example, what the governor of Vihiga County is trying to do. The matter should be sorted out amicably. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, you are a Member of Parliament and so, you are a very good example. Hon. Kajwang’, your brother, was a Member of Parliament from that area. People were living there very peacefully. This is an issue which should be sorted out through the mechanism provided by this Bill. With those remarks, I support the Bill."
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