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    "id": 627708,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/627708/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. M.D. Duale",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 1377,
        "legal_name": "Mohamed Dahir Duale",
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    "content": "For those areas which have not had any legal framework of ownership of land, what the Bill lacks is that it talks about community land registration. But it does not talk about community registration for purposes of ownership of land. That, in effect, means that, for those areas - and knowing what Kenyans can do - this becomes a challenge because they already face a lot of challenges and conflict because of border issues. If it is not made very clear in this Bill how the community will be registered, we could have proliferation of people coming up with what they call communities, but which might not be true communities in terms of homogeneity and what is described. This can create community land which might not be sustainable in terms of purpose and how those lands are being used. My fear is that if this is not made very clear, then we might have a serious conflict. I also want to note that currently in North Eastern, I know of two issues which have really affected us. In that part of the country, we do not have a national grid. For the first time, we had hopes that the grid would reach Garissa, extend to Wajir and then Mandera. Even though there is no legal framework in terms of community land ownership, we have had challenges of the grid not reaching Garissa because of people claiming ownership of the tract of land on which the grid was to pass. That has caused the people of Garissa and beyond not to have power supply which I believe was going to be a gateway to development. Recently, we had a problem in Garissa where some people accused Kenya Defence Forces (KDF) of grabbing land and, personally, I do not believe that is true. That is because the military camp currently in Garissa is in the middle of the town and many times, what happens is that when there is an insecurity threat, there is a lot of gun-fire within the town. That has been very scaring. This land, which people purportedly say was grabbed by the Kenya Defence Forces (KDF), is actually a trust land, which has no ownership. People in Garissa County were very happy that the military had acquired land, which they would use for their work and would have moved out of Garissa, so that they do not have that perpetual fear of being shot whenever there is slight insecurity. This Bill, once approved, will sort out those kinds of issues for us. With those few remarks, I support the Bill. I hope we shall propose amendments to rectify those anomalies."
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