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    "speaker_name": "February 25, 2016 SENATE DEBATES 15 Sen. Kagwe",
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    "content": "Please, protect me from Sen. Wamatangi on my left and the KANU boss on this side, to enable me prosecute my argument. There are three things that I think are important if we expect the MCAs to address the issue of oversight in the counties. The first one has to do with the qualification of an MCA. We might try to run away from this argument but as long we have persons who are not qualified to interrogate a budget or do not have the capacity that the governors themselves have, the Constitution requires that governors be persons holding university degrees, but then it went on to say that the people who are going to oversight do not need any qualifications. That is an anomaly and a wrong notion. The Bill that is currently in the National Assembly should be interrogated by this House so that we can give our input. I do not believe that the Bill must have the word degree in it. However, it must have some form of qualification, for instance, a Certified Public Account (CPA), higher diploma or something that is professionally recognized as an individual who can interrogate a budget. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the second thing has to do with payments. If we ask that people be qualified, it follows then that their remuneration must be commensurate with the job they are doing. Many people cannot leave their jobs to become either Members of the County Assemblies (MCAs) or County Executive Committee (CEC) members. If there is a group of people who should be properly paid, it is the CECs. This is because governors are hiring individuals who they easily intimidate because they know they are not well paid. If you remember, a while back, the Members of Parliament used to go to State House to queue to get some money. Sen. Billow can bear me witness."
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