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    "id": 634152,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. A.B. Duale",
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        "legal_name": "Aden Bare Duale",
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    "content": "conservancies. However, this Bill gives clarity between the roles of the community, the NLC and the Ministry of Land, Housing and Urban Development. Clauses 8 to 10 are very important because they propose to amend Sections 12 and 14 of the Land Registration Act and insert a new section that creates the position of Deputy Chief Land Registrar, County Land Registrar and Land Registrar. It then states their qualifications and respective mandates. This will ensure that we have land registrars at the county and the national level. We will know their qualifications, their mandates, who signs the title and who is mandated to register. Clauses 11 and 12 of the Bill propose to amend Sections 16 and 17 of the Land Registration Act. I need to make it very clear that for one to understand this Bill very comprehensively, you also need to have the NLC Act, the Land Registration Act and the Land Act, 2012. This Bill is dealing with the principal Acts. It is amending a specific section of a particular act. If it is amending the National Land Registration Act, you can then check and see what the principal Act says vis-à-vis this Bill. Colleagues, when I say the Bill proposes to amend Sections 16 and 17 of the Act, I mean the Land Registration Act, where it provides ratification, preparation, submission and custody of cadastral maps. Many people create their cadastral maps and have their own plans. We must specifically state in law how we ratify, prepare, submit and the custody of cadastral maps. Clause 13 proposes to amend Section 18 of the Act. This deals with the procedure for the determination of boundary disputes and other disputes involving a piece of land. I can say without fear of contradiction that all the 47 counties in our country and even all the constituencies have boundary disputes. It is a very emotive issue. We formed the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) and it only deals with elections. We need to ask where the section dealing with boundaries is. Mr. Isaack Hassan should tell us that out of the nine commissioners, three or four commissioners, with a separate secretariat, deal with boundary issues. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, today, the whole country from individual private land owners to constituencies and counties is full of conflicts from Western, North Eastern to Coast. As a country, we must agree once and solve all these conflicts. Clauses 14 to 31 of the Bill propose various amendments to the Act to bring consistency between the provisions and correct the typo and grammatical errors found in these laws. In the last Parliament, we enacted some of these laws past midnight as there was a rush and there were a number of typo errors. Allow me to move step by step because this is the Bill that broke the camel’s back between Mr. Swazuri, Mr. Matiang’i on one side and Charity Ngilu, when she was the Minister for Land, Housing and Urban Development. Clause 32 of the Bill proposes to amend Section 79 of the Act to provide for ratification of mistakes and updating the register. We are talking about historical injustices and there are many Kenyans who have title deeds. The Member for Laikipia North will agree with me as we had a chat this afternoon with colleagues and he told us that it is true that there are one million acres of land in Laikipia North in the hands of white men. That is a historical injustice. That section says that we must find a way to ratify that mistake, update the register and bring back part of that land. You cannot graze your animals in another person’s land who has its title deed. The title deed does not matter much to pastoralists. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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