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"content": "When we asked the Ministry how it has spent the Kshs4.5 billion, it said that some of it was used to settle pending bills. Is it worth for us now to say that we want to allocate another Kshs4.5 billion to pay pending bills which is not part of the managed equipment service? These are the hard questions we ask ourselves. On the Kshs4.5 billion for maternity service, is it really going to all those facilities or it is going to county governments where it will be utilised for other functions? Do we have a better way on how this money for maternity can be ring-fenced? Can we propose that this money goes through the NHIF to avoid double payment? If someone is an NHIF card-holder and she delivers in hospital and they pay through the NHIF, the same hospital will bill the Government for the same service. So, there is double payment. You will pay through the conditional grant which is Kshs4.2 billion and yet the NHIF has paid. Can we have a systematic way of how this money can be utilised. On conditional grants to hospitals, the money is not ring-fenced because it is not going directly to the hospitals that the money is earmarked for. The money is going into the accounts of the county governments where it is used for other functions. We visited Jaramogi Oginga Hospital in Nyanza and the Kakamega Provincial Hospital and we were told by the governor that the money that was sent there was put in an account because they are thinking of building a hospital. This is the case and yet the same facility demands money for delivery of services. So, are we achieving what that money is supposed to do?"
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