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    "id": 639640,
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    "speaker_name": "March 23, 2016 SENATE DEBATES 25 Sen. Kivuti",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I will try my best to respond to all the issues raised starting with the concerns of my brother the Senator for Vihiga who raised this matter first. While acknowledging that my President may have issued an ultimatum, I cannot stand here and say that all the schools in this country, which may run into thousands, would be having title deeds in the next one-and- a-half months--- Personally, I think that is a good wish. I am sure that it is the wish of this House that all schools must have title deeds. Nonetheless, what I have presented to this House is what has been achieved and we can only project to what is achievable. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, Sen. Khaniri asked what the Government’s position was on the waiver. To the best of my knowledge, once a waiver is given, it is specific. In this particular case, the waiver was only for the payment of title issuance for the schools which is a response to what Sen. (Dr.) Khalwale asked; if the waiver can be expanded to cover all other issues that the schools may need. I would also put a question mark to that. There is an important issue that was raised by Sen. Khaniri about the list of schools. In my response, I stated clearly that the record on the number of schools in this country is not in the Ministry of Lands and Natural Resources. Those records are in the Ministry of Education, Science and Technology. For that reason, I would like you to give us guidance whether Sen. Karaba, the Chairperson of the Committee on Education could assist us with that information. As far as I am concerned, my Committee is very fast in dealing with land matters. There was an error in the typing of the list because Schedule 1 shows schools in Vihiga County have no title deeds. This is not true. Some schools in Vihiga have title deeds. I am sure that is just a typing error. The list of schools in Appendix B shows the names of schools with title deeds. Sen. (Prof.) Lesan asked a question about the public schools which are housed in private property. There was also a follow up question by Sen. Murkomen about public schools on forest land. Sen. Ndiema was concerned about the schools on farms owned by big companies. I would like to answer as follows:- According to the Government policy, once a school is established either on private farms or forestland, it becomes a public institution. Our laws provide that if one occupies a piece of land for more than 12 years, automatically that land becomes his. I do not think that there is anybody who would shut down a public school even if it is built on their private land safe for what was highlighted by Sen. Wetangula that a family may choose to sell the land---"
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