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    "id": 641817,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/641817/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Gichigi",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 1909,
        "legal_name": "Samuel Kamunye Gichigi",
        "slug": "samuel-kamunye-gichigi"
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, we need to coin a language that boarders between rising to support and rising to oppose. This will be ideal for people who oppose and support certain issues within a Bill. This is a grey area that we need to agree on. I support a substantial part of this Bill, but I will still make recommendations for amendments on others. Generally, this is a law that I would want passed. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, I am a lawyer who has dealt with land issues before I joined Parliament. I have dealt with many cases. I have also done conveyancing. If there is a sector that has suffered because of the Constitution that we passed in 2010 and the land laws that were passed by the last Parliament, it is the real estate sector. If you speak to any lawyer or real estate company, you will realise that they are suffering as we speak because of the confusion that is occasioned by the existing land laws. If you say that we oppose the provisions that have been brought to this House, it would not be fair to this country. You had better bring your amendments so that we can consider them, but do not just oppose. We know we have a big problem under the current land laws. Somebody has attempted to bring in some clarity, especially on the functions between NLC and the Ministry. Instead of us saying that this Bill is bad, we should bring some amendments. That is a mandate that is vested in this House. I challenge my colleagues and other stakeholders to invest in the Members of this House to improve the proposals that have been brought to us. In my constituency, we have about five colonial villages. People were settled in small parcels of land, but they have not been given title deeds. Since I joined Parliament, I have been pounding the corridors of the buildings housing the NLC and the Ministry officials to no avail. One body will, for example, say that they do not know who is supposed to handle leases and who is supposed to sign them. The next time you go to their offices, you will find that they have gazzeted the officers to sign the leases. Let us get clarity. We may not be able to get the best law from what we have here today, but we can improve on it and then if, subsequently, where we have challenges, we can amend it. However, we cannot let the existing status quo to subsist. I will be supporting this Bill subject to serious amendments. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, the provision provided for under Clause 12 gives clarity. For instance, the Survey of Kenya prepares the maps, but we will need NLC to house them. That is a good provision. Clause 13 talks about boundary disputes issues. The boundary disputes have been on for a long time. The law is now saying that boundary disputes must be determined within six months. Hon. Members, we need to support this law. Land lawyers are aware of how the business of first registration has made Kenyans to suffer. A family may register their land while one member is not there. The members who are registered as the owners can claim to be the first registered owners. The law used to say that even if that registration is fraudulent, it cannot be impeached in court. The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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