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    "id": 641825,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Kimaru",
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        "legal_name": "Anthony Mutahi Kimaru",
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    "content": "land law. I do not know if it is right to kick them out overnight and replace them with advocates of the High Court. Those advocates may not have a lot of experience in land law. We may have to look into this afresh, especially when you say that this has to be done once the law comes into effect. That is not a good thing. We may provide for a transition where lawyers are incorporated. Do not discount the amount of knowledge that the current officers have. I have interacted with registrars of land and I can tell you for free that their knowledge of the land laws is unparalleled in many instances. I support the part that talks about fraudulent registration. Previously, it was taken to be a sacrosanct right to land once you were the first person to register it. This is whether it was fraudulent or not. This is forgetting that the person getting the first title may have done so fraudulently. Issuance of title deeds to land that has been acquired fraudulently, whether in the first instance or not, should be revoked. When we talk about public land, we still need to streamline a lot of things. In my county, land which is for public utilities like sewerage and disposal of garbage has recently been given out to individuals. This has been done with the blessing of the Commissioner of Lands. How can that be done? How can people be so greedy? That has happened in a town like Nanyuki, which needs those amenities more than ever before. The gurus of the municipal council, uneducated as they might have been, bought land about 50 kilometres from Nanyuki, envisaging the growth of that town. They planned for the sewerage and garbage disposal to be located far away from the town, only for some people to convert that land to private hold. I do not know how consent could have been given by the Commissioner of Lands. It is not acceptable. On the issue of historical injustices, we need to have a structured way of looking at it. My grandfather was a squatter. My father was a squatter. I have bought land. I was never given land by anybody. Just because I come from a certain tribe, it is seen that the regime of Jomo Kenyatta is the one that gave whatever piece of land that I have acquired. My parents were squatters."
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