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    "id": 64244,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/64244/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Mr. Oyongo Nyamweya",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Manson Oyongo Nyamweya",
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    "content": "Thank you, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, for giving me a chance to contribute to this very important Motion in this country. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, for the Government to borrow, it is a right. It is through the Government borrowing that we are able to get roads; we are able to get money to construct dams; we are able to get money to get electricity. These public projects are meant for the common good of the Kenyan public but in the past, there are loans which have been given that were not for the public good. For example, the one for the Ken-Ren Chemicals and Fertilizers Company Ltd, which was meant to help this nation to save foreign exchange by producing fertilizer at a lower cost. But, unfortunately, this is not happening. This money went to individual pockets; this money has not been recovered, but the generation of Kenyans who are living now and the ones who will live in the future will continue paying loans which did not come; loans which the Kenyan people did not benefit from. Therefore, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, it is very important that this Motion is debated and passed so that there is better public scrutiny on how public funds are used; there is better public scrutiny on who is paying what so that there is discipline from the Ministries concerned, there is discipline on how the Government can borrow from outside so that we can be become more accountable on how these funds can be used. So, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, as I stand here, let us support this Motion; let us have it moved so that in future, we do not have situations whereby the Kenyan public--- Imagine a situation where Kenyans are paying money for security projects. This must be brought from Recurrent Expenditure. It should not be used for future Kenyans to pay. Because what has happened in these security projects is that Kenyans are going to pay for them for a long time. But it was meant to be a recurrent expenditure. The purpose of the Government borrowing and getting a public debt is to finance projects to benefit the future generations. It is not meant for recurrent consumption. So, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, with those few remarks, I support this Motion because I believe---"
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