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    "id": 643331,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/643331/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Mwiru",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 107,
        "legal_name": "Alex Muthengi Mburi Mwiru",
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    "content": "Be that as it may, some Members could be debating from the fact of whatever it is on the face value of the Bill but I know that we considered many of these things as a Committee. Those issues will come out clearly during the Committee of the whole House. Let us look at some of the things that have been making these two entities not to function properly. There has been hue and cry on who should issue leases or titles and who is supposed to administer a lease if it expires. From the Committee level and where I stand, once a lease expires the land reverts back to public ownership. Therefore, that can only be managed by the NLC. That is why we removed the mandate of alienating land from the Presidency to the NLC. The mandate of administering that land, including its alienation, belongs to the NLC. In terms of issuance of title deeds, however, it is the national Government that issues them. What we are saying is that this is a matter of checking and counterchecking these two entities. Each entity must play its role to make sure that it counters the other. This is because if we allow the NLC to manage public land, including alienation, issuance of allotment letters and title deeds, we will be getting back to the same system we were trying to avoid. Even the mandate of issuing title deeds, which people may think is a function of the NLC, in the prescription of the functions in Article 67(2)(c) of the Constitution, the NLC is only supposed to advise the national Government on matters to do with registration. Paragraph (c) of Sub-Article (2), Article 67 says that the functions of the NLC are to advise the national Government on a comprehensive programme for the registration of titles in land throughout Kenya. The role of the NLC is to make sure that titles are not issued by the national Government left, right and centre because they would have advised in a very comprehensive way how registration is supposed to be carried out."
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