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    "id": 643816,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/643816/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Angwenyi",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 326,
        "legal_name": "Jimmy Nuru Ondieki Angwenyi",
        "slug": "jimmy-angwenyi"
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    "content": "We give money to the counties, but do you know how much they realize locally? Why can we not first ask them to provide how much they generate locally, so that we can balance out how much we should give them and for what purposes? Maybe, our budget should be programme-based. For example, if we give Kisii County money for health, we must ask them if they are going to construct Marani Level 4 Hospital or whether the money is for recurrent expenditure. If it is for recurrent expenditure, we should know how many people are going to be paid. If it is for development, we should know what development projects are going to be undertaken. I am not opposed to devolution of services, but we must be careful so that we do not sink this country economically. Recently, you have seen nearly every county has been involved in corruption. We do have corruption at the national level too. We must also be concerned about corruption trickling down to the grassroots, such that our own children would now think corruption is a good thing. For a service to be provided by a worthy administrator such as a village elder, assistant chief, chief, Assistant County Commissioner or anyone trained to provide administration, why should they be bribed and yet, they are paid salaries to provide those services? It is unfortunate that the Okoa Initiative did not do well enough. We could have used it to rectify some of those situations. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, since you are lawyer, I am begging you to bring a Bill here so that we can enact law on referendum. I understand even if it would have gone through the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC), it could not still have been implemented because we do not have a law which implements referendum. We must address some of these issues for our country to move forward. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, with those few remarks, I beg to support."
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