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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I am glad and privy to communication that suggests that there was somebody who was in the process or is attempting to hive off the Mau Forest. That discussion has disappeared and I hope that the intention has also disappeared. Any person who had the intention of hiving off the Mau Forest must have been doing it for purposes of lining their pockets. The people who are destroying our forests are not doing so for anything useful other than making themselves rich. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, there is something peculiar and I want to congratulate the committee. This is the proposal on Clause 25 (a): The justification for amending Clause 25 (a) should be commended. The justification given is; the proposal requires the Cabinet Secretary to grant incentives to persons involved in climate change initiatives. In other words, we call this carbon credits. Somebody like Sen. Kagwe is entitled to carbon credits for the amount of trees he has planted. There is a fundamental point. It is not just any tree. For a long time, in my county and other places, somebody gave us the wrong message about swamps. In order to deal with swampy areas, people were advised to plant blue gum trees. I think the teacher of that process left before telling people that they should not plant blue gum trees next to river sources. As a result, the blue gum trees have taken away the water from the rivers. The incentive for planting these trees, even in my own county and villages, is making money. You make money but lose the water. Needless to say, we do not have food security. As we deal with the question of food insecurity, the incentives that are offered by the Cabinet Secretary under Clause 25 (a) should include, and not limited to telling people to cut down trees that are affecting the environment. A wise man once asked me to identify a nest on a blue gum tree. The only way to identify a good tree is to check whether a bird can perch on it. You will never find a nest on a blue gum tree and that shows how poisonous the tree is. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, therefore, regarding the carbon credits that are suggested in Clause 25 (a), one of the things that we should do is have civic education on the sort of trees that can restore our environment. Although the Mediation Committee did not notice the council—"
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