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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Chepkong’a",
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        "legal_name": "Samuel Kiprono Chepkonga",
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    "content": "Those audited accounts have been tabled before and no committee has examined them. PAC has tabled its Report in which the Division of Revenue Bill has been used as a basis to divide the revenue between the national Government and the county governments. Therefore, if PAC has been tabling a Report that does not contain part of the revenues that have been used by one segment of the society, then the usage of the latest revenue collected by Government has been erroneous because it has not been complete. So, what the Hon. Leader of the Majority Party is raising is extremely valid and relevant. This is because the revenues of Government have not been holistically audited. So, we are asking where this should be done. Let us forget about the fact that ODM has not accounted for Kshs19 million and FORD (K) Kshs11 million. That should be of less concern to us. It should be the principle itself. Where should this be domesticated? Just to clear the air, many things have been alleged by Hon. Jakoyo Midiwo, including why we have not employed a Registrar of Political Parties. As you know, it was a responsibility of Parliament to do so. As Members know, the Constitution was changed. It is no longer the mandate of Parliament to employ people. It is the mandate of the Executive and so, we amended the law the other day about one month ago to require the Public Service Commission (PSC) to advertise and recommend names to come to Parliament. With regard to whether we have allocated sufficient funds to the political party’s kitty, it is the responsibility of this House and not of the Executive. We are the budgeting arm of Government. If we think that sufficient money has not been allocated, we should look for that money and allocate. So, it has nothing to do with the Executive in light of the new Constitution. We have spent a lot of taxpayers’ money travelling across this world. I do not think we have shown any value for our travels. In a presidential system, what is the relevance of PAC and PIC in oversighting the Government? Should it not be all committees overseeing the various departments with respect to interrogating the accounts that have been submitted by the Auditor-General? I was in the United States of America (USA) together with Hon. Baiya and other chairmen. We found that they do not have PAC in a purely presidential system. For example, the Departmental Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs to which I am the Chairman, the equivalent committee in the USA budgets and interrogates the Auditor General’s report once submitted to Parliament with respect to the Judiciary and the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) and that is a presidential system. We are still in transition from a parliamentary system to a presidential system. These are the issues that we should be addressing so that we can amend the Standing Orders to be in line with the presidential system. As long as we have a presidential system we must be faithful to it. We cannot choose and pick what we like in a parliamentary system and import it to a presidential system so that the system becomes confused and convoluted."
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