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    "id": 647654,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ababu",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 108,
        "legal_name": "Ababu Tawfiq Pius Namwamba",
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    "content": "If the Leader of the Majority Party, for instance, says that the ODM has not explained or accounted for Kshs.19 million in revenue, that is a very presumptuous and an unfortunate statement. It sends an erroneous impression out there that this is fact and it has been confirmed after having gone through the process of interrogation. As a person who has chaired the PAC, I know that an audit query is just that and must be subjected to interrogation. My submission therefore, on the basis on Standing Order No.205 is let this report proceed immediately to the PAC for interrogation. It will afford opportunity to the various executive directors of the political parties as accounting officers and the Registrar of Political Parties being the superintendent of this whole process to respond to these audit queries. In the absence of that and before that is done, anything else will be speculative and it will be unfair to the various political parties. I know, for instance, that the question of revenue is a complicated one. I would like the Executive Director of my party, ODM to be invited by the PAC. I would definitely encourage him to appear before the PAC and explain the audit query of revenue. I believe that after the PAC has interrogated that process, it will then submit a substantive report to this House for debate. As at now we do not have anything for this House to debate. All we have is an audit query from the Auditor-General that should be interrogated by a committee of this House for us to debate. Otherwise, we can go round casting aspersions and speculating all over the place. I could say, for instance, the accounts of the URP have not been submitted having heard through the grapevine that they could not account for Kshs.20 million or Kshs.100 million. The moment I utter that on the Floor of this House that could be reported as gospel truth which is unfair to the political party. On the question of having a special committee, I agree that the manner in which we handle funds given to political parties is special. My submission would be rather than have a special committee we should maybe revise the Standing Orders to provide a proper procedure and special mechanism that the PAC can use to deal with this particular area as a special area of interest. Personally, I do not see any need to set a specialized committee to deal with this. The PAC is properly and sufficiently established to deal with a matter of this nature. For the benefit of the Leader of the Majority Party, my party is a party of democracy; the party that brought him to this House; the party that introduced him to politics. I submit on behalf of the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM), the largest party in this country from Todonyang to Loitoktok and from Budalangi to Shimoni that we will definitely provide all the details required to respond to any audit queries on the funds utilized by the party. I submit."
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