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"content": "Thank you, Hon. Deputy Speaker, for giving me this opportunity to make my contribution. I believe, by large, I support the resolutions of this Mediation Committee, especially on Clause 7 on the issue of civil societies being included. As already stated, they play a crucial role in supporting issues to do with climate change. They need to be represented. I know there was that competition between them and CoG. But the two institutions are very critical on the issues of climate change and the two need to be captured in this Bill, so that both the civil society and CoG are represented. That is quite acceptable. On the issue of approval by Parliament, this is good because we are now accommodating the Senate. There is no need for us to compete with the Senate all the time. Let them also play a certain role in the approval. Although it is now going to take more time to approve the names to the board, it is a necessary evil in terms of accommodating democracy. On the last one concerning the offences, I am quite uncomfortable with it, especially when we are talking of figures like Kshs10 million. It is not a small figure. We are talking of imprisonment not exceeding five years. Offences to do with climate change are not measurable. The offences which we can attribute to one individual are not exactly measurable. That the temperature has increased by 1 degree Celsius simply because of a certain offence committed by a certain person may not be possible to measure. If somebody cuts down a tree, then you say that it is a major offence which affects the climate and that he or she needs to pay Kshs10 million is excessive. Offences to do with the climate are well captured in the Environmental Management and Coordination Act (EMCA). That Act tackles issues of offences with regard to the climate whereas the Climate Change Bill is simply on measures to address whatever challenges there are in climate change. I support the resolutions."
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