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    "content": "“The governments at the national and county levels are distinct and inter- dependent and shall conduct their mutual relations on the basis of consultation and cooperation.” It means that the government at the national level is not any different from the government at the county level. Therefore, what is good at the national level is equally good at the county level. In fact, the governor and his deputy are a mirror at the county level of the President and his deputy at the national level. What is provided for and expected to happen at the national level must be what is expected to happen at the county level. Anything less, this Senate will be abrogating our responsibility under Article 96 of the Constitution which reads:- “(1) The Senate represents the counties, and serves to protect the interests of the counties and their governments.” It is obvious that it is not protecting the interests of the counties and their governments by passing legislation that will cause chaos in the structure of county governments. We must leave governors and their deputies to work on the basis of their pre-election arrangement or agreements either as individuals or as parties. We must have a situation where we leave the personal chemistry and ability of the governor and his deputy to realise and see the bigger picture to run the county. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, even within the context of Coalition for Reforms and Democracy (CORD) - where I am a principal - in Turkana County, the governor is from my partner party, the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM). The deputy governor is from my party Ford Kenya. The two do not see eye to eye. The deputy governor cries that the governor cannot allow him to do anything. I will be the last person – despite the protests and complaints from my party man - to superintend their relationship with the governor. If the deputy governor is unhappy he can reconsider his position. If he is not sufficiently unhappy, he can persevere to the end. I do not have an intention of being a governor because I know what I am looking for. Those who wish to be governors, this House wants to allow them to function as governors, similar to the way the president functions at the top. The deputy president deputises the president in the functions under the Constitution. Period! Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, if there is an emergency, the president can ask the deputy president to go to Kwale to coordinate the rescue mission of flood victims. The president can send the deputy to the most dangerous places like the regions where Al- Shabaab are shooting people. Whether the deputy president is shot or not, it is not the president’s business. When we open up to judicial challenges, it is not the way to run affairs of the State. I have a deem view of those Clauses that I have pointed out. The sponsor of the Bill is in the House now and may I point out that I agree with him in the manner of handling the removal of the deputy speaker of the county assembly. The clauses touching on the governor are personal to the deputies that are suffering. The House does not correct, insulate and manage relationships between governors and their deputies. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, Clause 6 amends Section 33 of the principle Act on the voting of the impeachment of the deputy governor. This I agree but the vote should be The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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