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    "content": "I have to say that one of my proudest submissions in a court of law was in the Court of Appeal when I was appearing at the request of my senior, Mr. Pheroze Nowrojee. In fact, we were in those proceedings with Mr. M. Kilonzo and he was appearing for the former President and I was appearing for the current President. I told the judges that my client, who is President Kibaki, may one day become the President of this country and he will think of that particular day in court and decide whether justice was done to him. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, I am glad that one of the judges who was in that petition was talking to me the other day and he has ceased to be a judge in that court. He said that we should not take any situation or any person for granted. He confessed to me that as he sat in that court he never believed that His Excellency President Mwai Kibaki would ever become the President of this country. He was very arrogant in that court because for him former President Moi was baba na mama . For purposes of those proceedings, His Excellency President Mwai Kibaki was just a passing cloud. We want a Judiciary which would never look at individuals on the basis of their station in life but one that is able to give justice expeditiously. Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker, in conclusion, in the 1950s during the Korean war, President Harry Truman, in exercise of presidential authority was taking over industries saying that America was at war, but it is the supreme court that stood up and said: “You cannot do it.” For that reason, Americans sometimes do not want their people to be taken to the Hague because they believe they have the best judicial system. They may be right or wrong. They justify that if an American appears before a foreign tribunal, he will be appearing before an inferior court. So, I want to urge everybody who is talking about how we will reform the Judiciary which begins with the appointments that we want to make that appointments that are being made are to be made for Kenya. They are meant to make Kenya better and for Kenya to have a good Judiciary. They should be made to meet the exigencies of the moment. This is because apparently, this exercise that we are involved in is not about"
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