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    "id": 654638,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/654638/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Anyango",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 130,
        "legal_name": "Dalmas Anyango Otieno",
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    "content": "Hon. Temporary Deputy Chairlady, Hon. Members may be taking this matter lightly. It is important to clarify that there are two levels of information. Information that is able to sustain a conviction in court and one that is adequate for Government action. In the absence of a clause like (h), we cannot be safe. The best examples have been the Mombasa Republican Council (MRC) and some Al- Shabaab members who have been released by the courts. That is because there are no clauses through which the prosecution can articulate the dangers posed by an individual. If we delete this second amendment which is on people who may be prejudicial to national interest, it will not be right. Though it appears vague, it is a deterrent to some of the devious characters we will be dealing with under this law. Though it can be abused, deleting it exposes us to people who are able to hide their actions. Without such clauses, we literally cannot reach them yet we may have adequate intelligence information. That information will only be used administratively to take action under this law. If we are to take such deviants to court, it will be difficult to sustain a conviction under this clause without this amendment. I support the amendment."
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