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    "id": 661497,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/661497/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Eng.) Gumbo",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Nicholas Gumbo",
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    "content": "The conversation this country should now be having is how to reduce public expenditure. Why are capital projects becoming possible only through debt? Why can it not be possible for us to live reasonably within our means by trying to do as many of the capital projects as possible through the substantial revenues that we raise in this country? We are shying away from that reality. The truth of the matter is that currently, there is too much unnecessary public spending even in terms of what we give to public offices in this country. We need to have a bold conversation as a country before we build this voracious appetite for debt. These are painful steps that we have to take as a country. How do we reduce public expenditure in Kenya? How do we make Kenya live within its means? This country has the capacity to live within its means. It has been said that we are only providing a guarantee. It has been said that this loan is contentious. It has been said that when this loan is taken it will be affordable and most of it will be taken up by the KPA. Let us not forget that KPA is owned by the people of Kenya. Ultimately, whether it is the KPA or any other agency within Government that is taking up the loan for the Second Terminal, that burden is transferred to the people of Kenya. That is the point that I do not agree with. In conclusion, our appetite for debt in the last three years has almost become unmanageable. Some of the projects that we are undertaking ought to have been done a long time The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
}