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    "content": "fact that they are leaders in counties does not exempt them from being part of the leadership of our nation. So, these are useful comments. Madam Temporary Speaker, allow me to also mention the issue of the former leaders joining the “Upper House.” That is a very good tradition. Instead of our senior leaders who have retired staying at home, they should be in this House. If they were, we would not be witnessing some of the things that are happening in the streets today. My brother, Sen. Wetangula is participating half-heartedly. The cause of that entire fracas is our friends, former senior leaders who are out in the cold. So, if we recognise them and have a place like here to ventilate, we will not be having the kind of things you see across the country; property being destroyed, loss of lives, looting et cetera. I was in Rwanda and visited the Senate. The former Prime Minister is a Member of the Senate. However, this should not be compulsory. If somebody is a bit elderly like Mzee Daniel arap Moi or Mzee Kibaki, he does not have to be compelled to be a Member of this House to be spending his afternoons here because maybe he wants to rest with his great grandchildren at home. President Uhuru Kenyatta will still be young when he retires in 2023 because he will be in his 60s and so will the Deputy President, William Ruto. That will be the case for many of us, including my brother here who wants to be the president. When he retires, he will still be energetic and we would like him to come and share with us his experiences. In fact, tied to that vote is something that was brought the other day in the RBC meeting which I supported fully. This House being the senior House, we need to be having more senior leaders to come and address us. I see no reason why Mzee Kibaki or Mzee Daniel arap Moi---. I was even consulting Sen. Moi and that is a good idea. Once in a while, we would like Mzee Daniel arap Moi to spend an afternoon here for 30 minutes and share with us because he was in this Chamber in 1957 as a Member of the Legislative Council (Legco). He should come and share his views on what we do and what we need to improve on. This is very good for our traditions and culture as a country and as an institution. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, I want to leave it there. I am grateful for the comments which have been made. I agree that we need titles so that people do not misuse titles. I agree that I should not be demanding for a title and that I should not introduce myself as Hon. Sen. (Prof.) Kindiki. Those are honorifics and they are for other people to call me but I should not call myself. I have witnessed scenarios where a person introduces themselves as Hon. Dr. Prophet so and so. That leaves you wondering how a person can be a Mr. and Mrs. at the same time. We have seen conmen in the religious sector where people claim to be prophets and doctors. I have seen cases where magicians sell chemicals and they refer to themselves as Apostle, Mr., Mrs., Rt. Rev. Dr. so and so. We also have quacks like Prof. Majimarefu. I think the lawyers anticipated this problem. Under the Advocates Act, it is an offence to refer to yourself as an advocate when you are not. That is why you have never seen any quack calling themselves advocate so and so. I was telling my medical doctor friends to have a similar protection because this is a very sensitive profession. However, because they do not have a similar prohibition, you will find a fellow calling himself Dr. The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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