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    "content": "anything since you are not in attendance like you are here now. This is different. That is why there is a record showing that you were here today. However, there is no record showing that anybody attended some court room as a Member of Parliament, a spectator or somebody interested. It is immaterial. You cannot say that from where you are seated you attended in whatever capacity. Unless we have somebody who claims they attended as counsel either assisting, amicus or as a defence witness to the extent there is no Order. Hon. Kaluma, you cannot replace yourself as the Order. You are just an image in court. You will bring the records and proceedings that will show that Hon. Kaluma, the Member for Homa Bay Town appeared as an advocate or in whatever other capacity. So, let us wait for the Order. Once it is transmitted and if at all it will be debated on the Floor of this House, I will waive certain provisions just in case Members may wish to bring substantive Motions. This is not a matter about the Hon. Speaker of the National Assembly and it must not be viewed as such. So, Hon. Members until such time as an Order or ruling is transmitted to me - I will direct that it be placed on the Table here for Members to express themselves without doubt and in knowledge and information - I will disallow further debate on this matter and proceed with the business. Hon. John Mbadi, you cannot just start making gestures. I have disallowed further debate in agreement with the points raised by Hon. John Olago Aluoch and Hon. Tom. Kajwang’ that until we have the orders, here we will not debate"
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