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    "content": "Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, they are saying where applicable. When this law is passed, it will be like mandatory. They will make sure that they fill every slot representing jointly the National Council of Churches of Kenya (NCCK) and the Evangelical Fellowship of Kenya (EFK). These churches have an umbrella. Like I see even in my county, the Catholics, the Anglicans, the Salvation Armies and the Quakers have a congregation where they come together to pursue joint interests. They can decide that if one church produces a representative, another church should replace that person when they retire. We will have representatives from the NCCK, the EFK, the Kenya Episcopal Conference of Catholic Bishops which is exclusively my church and the Muslim Education Council. All these can be comprised into one person representing religious grouping and it will console them because they have an umbrella organisation. Mr. Temporary Speaker, Sir, when we were agitating for sending home the IEBC commissioners, they turned up to help us talk to the intransigent Jubilee Regime. I noticed that they have a very cohesive organisation where they come together. They have one spokesman. Like in our case, it was Bishop Korir of Eldoret Diocese and Bishop Rotich as their spokesmen. When they finished talking, the Muslims, the Evangelists and others were saying; “As our leader said”. So, we do not need to have four representatives. The more people you have in any body the more difficult it is to make a decision because people will always want to consult at every level. Clause 4(1) states that:- “(g) a representative of the association of private schools; (h) two representatives of trade unions representing the interest of teachers; (i) two representatives of parents and teachers association; (j) a representative of persons with disabilities; (k) two members nominated by the following bodies- (i) primary schools head teachers’ association. (ii) secondary schools principals association. (1) a representative of a child rights organisation.” We are stretching things too far. A person can have a disability and still represent all these interests, provided we define exactly what we want to achieve. What is important is not who sits at the table but what comes out of that table. If the intention is to take care of children with physical challenges--- I salute my father who is now 87 years old. He started a school in Bungoma called Nalondo CBM School for Disabled Children. It has now been taken up as a national school. That school produces brilliant disabled children. My father is not physically challenged, but he has brought this school from nowhere and now a primary and secondary. It is one of the tops schools in the country. I am sure that my distinguished colleague, the Senate Majority Leader, represents people in Tharaka-Nithi regardless of their status; whether they are disabled or mentally challenged. That is why we, the lawyers - I am happy that the only Members left in the House are lawyers - say that we do not design bridges. But when engineers design faulty bridges, they run to us to defend them. We do not go to the moon, but when astronauts go to the moon and quarrel there, they come back on earth to look for us to defend them. We do not know how to operate a dead body, but when a doctor carries out a faulty autopsy The electronic version of the Senate Hansard Report is for information purposes only. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor, Senate"
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