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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ogolla",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Gideon Ochanda Ogolla",
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    "content": "Wandayi issue. I remember the words from you when you were the Chair of that Committee in this House giving us a report yesterday. It was very good and there are indications that the Committee also had a glimpse of what this Bill now provides. There is an extent at which you can mete out certain punishment to the Member himself, rather than extending it to the constituents. This was good. It is true that our Constitution, if one bothers to be very keen, is a very litigious material. It allows all manner of rights like the right of representation, right of picketing and so on. At the same time, it allows Parliament to come up with its own ways and procedures of how to conduct its business. When that comes up, Parliament comes up with something like what we have in our Standing Order No.111. Definitely, conflict arises. Someone must be in this House to represent people throughout the life of Parliament. This Bill is a plus and it indicates that we have to do something with regard to the Powers and Privileges Committee of this House. Those are some of the things we had talked about, including changes to our Standing Orders. It is a very good Bill. Secondly, three challenges abound which need to be looked at very keenly. One was partly mentioned by the Mover in terms of the capacity of the Members of the County Assembly (MCAs). Placing them as people who are equivalent to a High Court judge is something that must be looked at. Comparing the image of the county assembly with the High Court based on what we know is something that must be looked at. The other thing that needs to be looked at is the relationship between the county assembly and the Senate, particularly when it comes to summoning people for appearances, whether it is a governor or a committee member. This is something that needs to be looked at. There is still a gap in how those assemblies relate with the mandate of the Senate. Those two institutions may end up duplicating their roles. Assemblies can end up summoning certain individuals or certain members of the society and then the same summons are done by the Senate. Harmony needs to be built around how the summons by the county assemblies and the Senate are done. Otherwise, I support this Bill as it is at the moment."
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