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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Dr.) Nyikal",
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        "legal_name": "James Nyikal",
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    "content": "that you have done or said in the Chamber for the MCAs. I do not think that is proper. I am afraid that if you allow it, sooner or later, somebody may want to amend our Standing Orders and introduce it here. That bit is something we need to look at. Clause 22(3) gives power to the county assemblies to propose and effect the removal of county public officers on grounds of their refusal to produce documents when they are ordered to do so. That is appropriate. As we have indicated, the Bill gives the assembly powers similar to those of the High Court. One would really have to look at the circumstances. Some of these are good, but we may have to look at the flipside on whether they can actually cause us problems. I support this Bill because it also looks at the other side. The conduct of MCAs with reference should be mirrored here. It would be criminal to compel or induce a member to action or miss activities or discussions that are going on in the assembly. If members can be induced to miss sittings so that they bring into effect some desired decisions, it would be good if that is looked at. If it can be proved, it would be something important. The Bill also looks at the issue of lobbying and it says that it is improper and sanctions can be brought against an MCA for soliciting, receiving a fee, compensation, reward, a favour or consideration for supporting or opposing a matter that is under discussion. That is extremely important because that is in the area of lobbying. As much as lobbying is acceptable, there should be limits within which lobbying can take place. The same clause also says that it would be improper to solicit the same for making a presentation of a Bill, Motion or amendments. It will be terrible if lobbyists induce MCAs to table Motions, amend Bills and amend acts just because they have been lobbied and they have received favours. This Bill has touched very important areas. As I said earlier, we should not have opened the county assemblies without the County Assemblies Powers and Privileges Act in place."
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