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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Kipyegon",
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        "legal_name": "Johana Ngeno Kipyegon",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to speak to this Motion. As I said previously, these Motions that urge the Government should be made to be either an amendment to a Bill or to be brought as substantive legislation. When you see the importance of some of these Motions and the fact that some of them might not end up being Bills, we feel like we are neglecting our duties as legislators. I would wish to support it, especially based on the roles these old men and women normally play in our societies. These people play a greater role in societies. These are the people who are closer to the ordinary mwananchi down there. These are the people who know where the real problems are. If you want to sort out the problem of insecurity, these are the people who know how to do it. They are the people who know which people are criminals or which people have the tendencies of stealing and committing petty crimes in the villages. So, these are the people who can curb insecurity in our villages. As I speak, some sub-counties are experiencing conflicts. For example, there is conflict in the border of my constituency and Kilgoris Constituency because of land disputes. There have been clashes for the last three weeks. These elders are the people who understand exactly what problems the communities that live in those areas face. We have also been having peace committees – people who have just been going round helping the societies to live together, but they do not earn anything. They are just at the mercy of the DCCs. We need to remunerate them just like other people working for the Government. These people are doing great jobs. It is only that we have not legislated to allow them to be permanently employed until when they retire they hand over to the other elders who can also help us. We have just had some casual engagement with them. Most communities have these elders. The Kalenjin have the Myoot who are meant to solve some of the problems facing the communities. We have the Njuri Ncheke among the Meru. It is time we recognised their formations and the importance of those village elders so that they can solve the matters we have. These people also come in on matters that affect the people, like in cases that are normally handled at the village level. Initially, before the formation of these other weird administrators by the counties, these people used to listen to cases that deal with families, petty crimes or stealing. They would sit down the villagers, listen to the cases and The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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