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    "id": 679485,
    "url": "https://info.mzalendo.com/api/v0.1/hansard/entries/679485/?format=api",
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Dr.) Kibunguchy",
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    "speaker": {
        "id": 294,
        "legal_name": "Enoch Wamalwa Kibunguchy",
        "slug": "enoch-kibunguchy"
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Speaker. I join all my colleagues in saying that the Senate did a good job. Initially, I thought the Senate would come up with a volume of amendments. I also want to commend them for what they have done. In the original Bill, we were talking about “national forests”, but the Senate saw it fit to call it “public forests”. Public forests are defined in the Constitution. Let me say something about the Third Schedule. It is very contentious for some of us who come from areas where, for a long time, the former President Moi used to go to places and tell people: “you can settle there”. This happened in Lugari. Those forests have not been degazetted. We find it very difficult to go through the process that has now been defined in the Constitution because these are areas where people have settled, lived, died, buried, and given birth to kids and grandchildren. It becomes very difficult and I do not know how we are going to resolve this issue. It touches very closely to people in my area. Otherwise, this is generally a good amendment. I support."
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