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    "id": 679901,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ogalo",
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        "legal_name": "George Oner Ogalo",
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    "content": "Thank you very much, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I wish I could speak as fluent Kiswahili as my brother. Unfortunately, I originate from where we are very far from the language. This language has never been Nilotic. I support the Report of the Committee of the whole House. I, particularly, praise the constitutional principle of the bicameral process of handling Bills of this nature because what the Senate has done has enriched what we, as the National Assembly, did. I am happy that we have the title “Chief Conservator of Forests.” What we had before is “Director-General”. This is very important. I am happy that this House has rejected the amendments of Clause 77 and the amendments to the Third Schedule. This is because there are processes that we should use even in areas where people have been settled in what was formally forest land. The process of de- gazetting those forests must be clear. We cannot put backdoor processes like the one the Senate tried to introduce in Clause 77. De-gazetting over 13 forests just by one amendment would have portrayed this country very badly in the eyes of the international community and those who are geared towards the conservation of forests globally. I urge the Members of the National Assembly who will be appointed to the Mediation Committee to ensure these two clauses die so that this Bill remains a progressive Bill to manage and conserve forests in Kenya."
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