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    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Dr.) Nyikal",
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        "legal_name": "James Nyikal",
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    "content": "We must have a situation where people do not enjoy those proceeds. This is coming at the right time. In terms of sanctions, what is important is what sanctions we give to people who commit an offence. These sanctions are the ones which will determine whether we are effective in the fight against corruption and bribery. I think we have been very lenient. As I said earlier, one person who plans a murder and kills another with one bullet or panga is actually subject to capital punishment. Another person organizes massive corruption at a scale which kills millions of people, for example through purchase of sub-standard drugs. Also, if a building collapses, hundreds of people will die. In my mind, I think it is not fair that the person who committed murder is killed and the one who kills many people goes scot-free. There is evidence in the East Asian countries that have developed. They have capital punishment for corruption at certain levels. I agree with the Hon. Member for Kiharu that we must look through this and find a system of dealing with the level of corruption that is affecting people in a massive scale. Those people need to be eliminated. I have no doubt in my mind that even God will agree that we need to do something about situations like that. I support and will definitely look through this to find where we can include more serious sanctions to discourage this practice. I know it is not possible to eliminate corruption, but let us discourage it. The worst bit is that people who are corrupt should not be seen as our heroes. I am sure we will need to find a way of assets recovery; so that those acquired through corruption are returned to the State and the culprits are left penniless. I am excited and MPs should take this seriously and move it not in a way of giving tokens of punishment and semblance of seriousness, so that we can deal with corruption."
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