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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ochieng",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "David Ouma Ochieng'",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I support this very important Bill. Corruption and bribery in Kenya is now a way of life. In fact, if we were to do statistics, I think all of us seated here today, will be found to have encouraged it one way or the other. The small sums of money you give to the police officer whom you like so much for doing his job well and you feel you must appreciate him, is bribery. We do this every day and it is killing our country. A gentleman called Teh Cheang Wan was a Minister in Singapore. In 1986, he was mentioned in a scandal and he was found dead the following day. In Kenya, if they mention your name in corruption, you want to become a hero, a governor, Member of Parliament or President. Sometimes, people say they want to be involved in a scandal, so that they can run for a seat because it adds value in Kenya for one to be corrupt. When I become the President, I will not allow these kinds of things. I will not allow people to steal and hold us to ransom. If it is a judge or Minister, I will send them to Mombasa and before they get to the airport, I will kill you. We cannot allow people who steal from us to be taken to courts because they are even buying the courts. If you know a corrupt person at the highest level, that person should die, so that we live with a few who are clean and are willing to work hard and earn an honest living. The moment we take people to court, they are granted bail and then, three to five years down the line, the issue is forgotten. Recently, a person was accused of misappropriating so much money and within two weeks, she was running for governor. People even think she can make it to be a governor. It cannot work that way. We will solve this problem if we take radical measures. We cannot stop corruption if we are going to be discussing with corrupt people how to deal with them in courts. A few heads must roll for us to handle the scourge of corruption. Otherwise, we have seen airport contracts of Kshs52 billion being cancelled. If you dig beneath it, you find that there is corruption. Somebody is holding the Government to ransom. You cannot allow people to hold this country to ransom just because they want to do business. Like Hon. Wanyonyi has said, you cannot hope, pray over it and talk to people to stop corruption. It cannot happen that way. People will only stop corruption the day they see it does not pay. But if it happens every day, this will not work. We must incalculate values like patience. If you are applying for an identity card, passport or any Government document, you must have the patience to wait until it is given to you normally. But because you want to move faster and want it like yesterday, you are willing to go to the next level to pay money so that you can get it. We must be transparent people and learn to work and move together as a country. Why move faster on your own, hoping that once you amass so much wealth and become the richest person, this country will grow? It cannot grow that way. The country only grows if all of us work hard, transparently and everyone is given a fair shot of the opportunities that we have. If that does not happen, I fear that even the laws that we are passing will not yield much. We are in a"
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