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    "id": 683879,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. (Ms.) Muia",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Regina Nthambi Muia",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I rise to support the adoption of the Report of the Public Accounts Committee (PAC) on the Government of Kenya Accounts for the 2013/2014 Financial Year. How long will we keep discussing misuse of public resources? Every year, the Auditor-General’s Report indicates that huge amounts of money have been misused. No Accounting Officer has been charged in court or even sacked. Every time we summon Cabinet Secretaries (CSs) or Principal Secretaries (PSs) here, all they tell us is that they will bring us more information on a particular issue. All Ministries have auditors who are supposed to give reports every year. We only handle very little money from the Constituencies Development Fund (CDF) but every year, we receive three auditors who come to audit our accounts. Yet, people handling billions are let free to do what they want. Every year, the Auditor-General brings a big list here, but we do not know what happens thereafter. People are now insensitive because they are aware the report will be tabled in Parliament and we will make noise here but no one will be asked to refund the money. We work with Ministries and they receive money every year. Even District Education Officers (DEOs) cannot account for the money. They keep requesting for classrooms and offices and yet, you wonder what that money does. They do not even pay bursaries. We must come up with a law to tame those people. The Procurement and Supplies Department in Government offices mostly deal with money. So, it does not make any sense when the CS or the Accounting Officers appear before us and tell us that they will bring more information. They are the same people who are misusing money. We will never get the truth of what happens in the ministries. I think this is just a procedure where we receive a list every year, debate it here and there is nothing. This is the end of what we debate here. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, even when we look at the issue of county governments, the Senators who are supposed to oversight those people receive a lot of money. We have never received any Report here. We only see names in newspapers. After two to three days, the person comes before the Senate. After one month, that person is said to be innocent and goes back to work. I do not know who is going to oversight those people – whether it is the ministries or whichever sectors. It is like there is no right procedure and the Auditor-General (AG) has no teeth to bite. This is just a paper we will be receiving after every financial year to discuss how much money is lost in each ministry. At the end of the day, I want to assure you that by October or November, you will never hear about that money. After our debate, that will be the end of it. Can we see something being done instead of talking, making noise here and the money is lost at the end of the day and it is gone? People put that money in their pockets and that is it. They will wait for next year and receive another account. Otherwise, once we receive from him and the Public Accounts Committee (PAC), we will want to know what happened to the previous monies which were lost. Otherwise, it is a procedure where we will discuss, talk, make noise and people continue with corruption and no one cares. To me, they do not care. When we start blaming Accounting Officers and they are not taken to court, it is improper. That is because the small man does not count here. We call the Accounting Officers, they do not give answers, and they talk and say they will bring information. I do not know where we are heading. People are fed up with us for debating here, yet there is nothing we are doing. We debate every year. Huge monies are lost; The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
}