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    "id": 69150,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Ms. Karua",
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        "legal_name": "Martha Wangari Karua",
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    "content": "Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I rise to oppose the Motion. I just want us to go down memory lane. On 16th December 2008, the two principals signed an agreement committing themselves to within sixty days, whip their troops to enable Parliament to pass a statute for a local tribunal. This Parliament failed and the principals failed, because they did not marshal their troops. I was the Minister then, I was begging to come in here and contribute; they did not. I was begging you, as Members, we failed. The ICC has not come for us. We actually beckoned it. The agreement signed by the principals stated that if a local tribunal is not formed within sixty days, then the ICC can come in. So the ICC is here, by virtual of invitation of none other than the two principals and by extension, Parliament, by failing to pass the local tribunal. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I for one, advocated for a local tribunal because it can adequately deal with the issues of trying the masterminds as well as the other offenders. Even now when the Ocampo six are tried or prosecuted, it does not completely solve the matter. We still need to deal with the other pending cases. But I am wondering about this sudden change of heart. Is it sincere? Why did it not come before Ocampo disclosed his list? My mind is telling me this is not genuine and I am entitled to my view, however wrong. I am wondering; is all the hullaballoo because people are under investigations because rightly, they are not indicted? It is just a list of people under investigation. If you look at how we are behaving as Members of Parliament, we are saying we are untouchable, we cannot even be investigated. Anybody else can be investigated but not Parliament. Even where it involves murder, mass rape, looting and burning of property, we are saying we are untouchable. If Kenyans have been wondering about the definition of impunity, this is the base of impunity. If we were worried that the courts would not be fair---"
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