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    "id": 69154,
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    "speaker_name": "69 Wednesday, 22nd December, 2010(P) Ms. Karua",
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    "content": "I will ignore that, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I begged this Parliament to pass the local tribunal, I will keep on repeating. If indeed there is any misfortune by the ICC investigating this Parliament and the very Member now raising a point of order is the chief architect of that particular misfortune. He was one of those who vehemently opposed the local tribunal saying: “Do not be vague, ask for the Hague.” You asked for the Hague, hon. Member, and other hon. Members. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to say this. The full beneficiaries of trials at the Hague will be justice and the victims of the Post-Election Violence (PEV). I say due process has two sides of it. If there is no evidence, you are cleared and you get out of it. If there is evidence, you are condemned. Those are the two sides. I am beginning to feel a little afraid that there may be manipulation of the renewal of the judicial process because it is clear that there is a belief that Members of Parliament or people in authority can evade justice. We have not seen any prosecutions that have succeeded, arising from the PEV. Very low level offenders--- We have not had convictions for murder and burning of property or looting. We have not had prosecutions for any serious crime. So, how are we going to believe that, that is going to be done now? We must think of the victims as we think about ourselves. We are called upon to represent people, not our individual interests in this House. I know that a majority of Kenyans want to see the trial of the masterminds at the Hague. They want our courts renewed for justice to be done here. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I want to say this: The fact that the Government has failed so far to appoint a Director of Public Prosecutions as per the Constitution; the fact that there have been no police reforms so far; the fact that an Attorney-General has not been appointed is clear indication that it is business as usual, unless the Government is pushed. Hear you people of Kenya that unless we collectively push for change, it is clear that the leadership in this country is determined to cover up for their misdeeds and let Kenyans suffer injustice. It is time we stood up for the truth and justice. Nobody should ever be condemned for something they never did. I stand even for those I do not agree with; that nobody should ever be condemned for something they never did. Let the course of justice flow. Let the river of justice flow. Let whoever thinks is being accused wrongly stand up and put his or her defence. I have seen partisanship in the way we are handling issues. I want to be on record that this is a sad day for Kenya. We should not withdraw from the ICC process merely because it is politicians and top people who have been named. What about the chicken thief? Do we abolish the courts today? What about the person who beat up the neighbour? Are we going to abolish the tribunal? This trend is dangerous. It is a setback for this country. The intolerance I see around does not bond well for Kenya. I want to beg hon. Members to reconsider and let the river of justice flow. I beg to support."
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