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    "id": 700391,
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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ogolla",
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    "speaker": {
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        "legal_name": "Gideon Ochanda Ogolla",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. Let me support Hon. Mwinyi on this critical Motion. First and foremost, any crime is an act against the State. When we are talking about criminal law and these kinds of actions, it is the beginning of the big process of prosecution. When we make it in a manner that at the first level one pays then in the other stages, there is no payment since this becomes part of evidence and witnesses--- In my view, it is important that the State takes care of all these issues from the beginning to the end. There is no need for a victim who finally ends up being a witness or being with exhibits for purposes of prosecuting an offender paying and yet the entire process of prosecution is handled by the State. I support this Motion and also stress that there is no need to pay particularly at this time when we are talking about witness protection. We are talking about many changes in terms of our judicial processes. It is important that the person, who in the real sense is a victim, is only a victim when he is reporting at the police station. After that, he is part of the prosecution as a witness. It is important that at the first stage when one reports a criminal offence, the State is in charge. The idea of paying for a P3 Form sometimes inhibits many victims. When somebody slaps you, breaks your limbs or interferes with you in any manner, the first thing is to go to the police. It is you who is the victim and paying for the P3 Form is not nice. For us to be very effective in terms of handling criminal procedures, it is important that this first level is free. If not, the P3 Form must be replaced with something else that is effective, free and recognised clearly by the Government. Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker, this is very close to the problems we have with postmortem in this country. Postmortem costs a lot of money. There are cases where it is very clear that somebody has already been apprehended and so he is either in police custody or is remanded and is waiting for due process to follow. When it is clear that somebody has hacked another to death, then the process of prosecution begins. But here is a case where a dead body is The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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