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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ngunjiri",
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        "legal_name": "Onesmas Kimani Ngunjiri",
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    "content": "Thank you, Hon. Temporary Deputy Speaker. I want to support the Motion because it is very important. I also want to thank Hon. Mwinyi for a job well done. We are touching the lives of the poor person. When we talk about P3 Form, that is where corruption starts. As we handle this issue, we should also remember that, that is where corruption starts. When we say that P3 Forms are being sold in the police stations, I have realized some of those things are even happening in my constituency. Maybe, the police are not selling the P3 Forms, but the brokers in between the police and the public are the people who sell those forms. We should also not condemn the police completely. We also need to make sure that things are done the way they are supposed to be done. When somebody loses his mother, father or a friend and then you start asking them for money and they are in pain; that is not good. They are told for instance: “For the postmortem to be done, you must give money.” That is where corruption starts. Those doctors are being paid by the Government. We need to strengthen this Motion to make sure that Kenyans get the services they deserve. An Hon. Member said – and I want to support him - that, if the Government is paying for maternity fees, then when somebody is leaving us, we must make sure we are giving the services to the family who are left behind. We need to strengthen this. Hon. Mwinyi, you have done well. That is where corruption starts. I also want to take this opportunity to tell Members not to divert from what we are discussing and go to something else. This Motion is very important for all of us. It is out of order for an Hon. Member to start saying that we need to raise money to buy guns - although that is The electronic version of the Official Hansard Report is for information purposesonly. A certified version of this Report can be obtained from the Hansard Editor."
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