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    "speaker_name": "Hon. Ethuro",
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        "legal_name": "Ekwee David Ethuro",
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    "content": "Order, Sen. Bule! You shall remain standing until I conclude whatever I am saying then we can make amends to the mischief that you have just conducted. The point that Senators have said which the Senate must emphasize and which we will communicate through our team - our participation in the conference is led by the Sessional Committee on Devolved Government led by the Chairperson, Sen. (Prof.) Lesan. He is assisted by Sen. (Dr.) Zani. I have made those nominations to the planning committee. My instructions to them are very clear. Everything is in a state of flux. These topics and themes are for consideration by that Committee. They are not cast in stone. Somebody somewhere had to start the necessary process for the rest of the Committee to dispose. Therefore, I assure Sen. (Prof.) Anyang'-Nyong'o that is the correct position. The first one should be about all the major players coming together to plan collectively. Secondly, the other message we have made abundantly clear is that we must learn from the experiences of the last conferences. It is only the first and the last conference that we did not attend but we attended the second conference in Kisumu. There were lapses of protocol and logistics during that meeting. Those issues must be addressed. Finally, devolution is not an opportunity for imperial presidency to be exhibited. The overall purpose of the new governance structure is that we unpacked the imperial presidency. It was not our desire to transfer any of that to the devolved governments. Our job as a Senate is to transfer functions. As far as I know, we have not transferred any such function to the county governments. This is not just a matter of political positions or politicking but devolution. It is not about the big man syndrome. We must work very hard to level everybody. We will continue engaging and informing the Senators on the progress being made by the Committee. What is it, Sen. Khaniri?"
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