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    "type": "speech",
    "speaker_name": "The Prime Minister",
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    "content": "Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I am afraid that is not in our hands because the ICC has got its own procedures. Once it is engaged, it moves in accordance with its own rules. We cannot tell them: Do not come today, come in 2015 or 2020. I have articulated in great details, the manner in which we can extricate ourselves from the ICC process without chest- thumping. I have also mentioned that it is possible for us to go to the UN Security Council and ask for a referral. Hon. Lessonet was asking about this. This is the possibility. I mentioned four different options but to follow them, it means that you have to begin the process of setting up a credible local process to deal with this matter. Otherwise, you cannot just go and say; we want you to defer this process without coming up with something solid and substantive that this is what we are doing or we have already done or give us time to do abcd. So, this is an option but it is one among others. We are exploring the option of setting up a process and then asking for a referral to our local process. Hon. Mwiru wanted to know whether there were only six names in the Waki envelope. That is a question that only Justice Waki can answer because as you remember, that list was secret and there were a lot of speculations. It was mentioned that the names of Raila Odinga, Dr. Monda, hon. Eugene Wamalwa, among others, were in it and so on. But, ultimately, Mr. Ocampo has only come with these six names and he is saying that he is leaving the rest to Kenya to deal with. So, Mr. Ocampo has said that he is only dealing with six cases but he is leaving the rest to Kenya to deal with. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, let me say, in conclusion, that we look at this as a journey. We have a journey and a responsibility to the people of this country. It is important that we move together as a united country and we do not try to apportion blame and throw punches left, right and centre at a time like this. It is important that this House speaks with one voice and remain sober and looks at credible alternatives that are available for us so that we can explore. We must also have the interest of our other people at heart. If we go forthwith and say that we withdraw from the International Criminal Court (ICC) and it still proceed with the cases, then where are we? Sudan is not a signatory to the ICC and yet, Mr. Al Bashir has been indicted and cannot step in any country in Europe or, the United States of America (USA). Now, remove Al Bashir and"
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